I read the front page of the Sutton Post with interest this evening. I have to admit that I found the article to be most amusing! One of Councillor Scully's newly converted supporters has made a 'Peter Geiringer inspired gaff' over a refuse collection issue. It would seem that Scully's nearest and dearest do find the topic of refuse collection to be an extremely tricky subject indeed.
The Sutton Conservative hierarchy's efforts at negotiating the finer points of waste management matters have once again ended up on the front page of The Post, whereby the journalist covering the story has AGAIN given Scully's Tories a damn good leathering for their incompetence.
Upon reading the article it would appear that Councillor Cliff Carter has in his limitless pomposity ordered a council employee to send a 40 tonne truck to make a single garden waste collection from just one Borough resident- rather than wait for a smaller vehicle to be made available.This event has obviously caused a significant drain on Sutton Council's financial resources. The fuel and manpower required for such a trip have created a large bill that could only be described as disproportionate to the objective of the task. Those interested in limiting the environmental impact of heavy vehicles will be appalled at the bloody-mindedness of Councillor Carter who allegedly still gave the go-ahead for the single collection to be made.
Here is the excerpt from this weeks Sutton Post article:
WASTE ROW AS LORRY SENT TO GET ONE BAG
"Cllr Clif Carter ordered garden waste to be collected by a dust cart traveling 12 miles".
COUNCIL Chiefs commitment to the environment has been criticised after a giant 40-tonne lorry was sent on a 12-mile trek to collect just one bag of green waste.
The collection was ordered after the bag - belonging to a resident in Aultone Way, Benhilton, was overlooked by workers during their rounds on Thursday June 12.
But the use of such a large truck has come under attack from one outraged councillor for being a huge waste of taxpayers' money.
Cllr Paddy Kane - chairman of the sustainable communities scrutiny committee at Sutton Council, said "One of our functions on the committee is to ensure we get best value for money. This is gross misuse of council resources".
Garden waste delivered to the recycling centre is composted at a facility in Beddington Lane to help the environment. Cllr Kane added "Sending a 40-tonne truck for one bag of garden waste is not environmentally friendly. It's absolutely frivolous".
The truck ws driven from its depot in Beddington Lane to Aultone Rd and then back via Kimpton reuse and recycling centre in North Cheam, where the bag was then offloaded.
Sutton North councillor Cliff Carter said he ordered the pick-up from Kimpton reuse and recycling centre on Saturday after they promised to collect the residents' bag twice bit did not.
He insists he did not realise such a large vehicle would be sent out.
Cllr Carter said "If you pay for a service you expect to get results, but there's no reason at all why they should sent out a large lorry".
But Cllr Kane (LIB DEM) said the depot supervisor advised Cllr Carter the truck was not suitable for a single collection - and this was ignored.
Judging by this and other examples highlighted on this blog it would appear that Sutton's Tory hierarchy do not consider either taxpayers money or the environment to be quite so precious as they would otherwise have us believe.
So in homage to Councillor Cliff Carter's 40-tonne gaff I have penned for him the following ditty. I hope that Cliff and the rest of Scully Il Duce's gang of sycophants enjoy my little rhyme:
THE OLD MAN PHONED THE DUSTMEN
(by S.Watch)
to be sung to the tune of
MY OLD MAN'S A DUSTMAN
(by Buchanan / Donegan / Thorne)
Lonnie Donegan - 1960
Now here's a little story
To tell it is a must
About an unsung hero
That helped move away your dust.
Sutton Council wastes a fortune,
Whilst Shields & Scully make a mint;
Old man Carter he doesn't earn that much:
next to those two fat cats he's skint!
Though the old man phoned the dustmen,
He's got an 'eart of gold,
He became a Councillor two years back,
Though he was eighty-six years old.
We all said "'Ere, hang on, Cliff,
You're getting past your prime";
He said "Well, when you get to my age,
It helps to pass the time."
The Sutton Tories they went canvassing,
around the ward of Sutton North,
Cliff shuffled along Aultone Way,
Knocking on every door and porch.
Councillor Carter he did beg for votes,
for supporters he did fish,
He thought "I need some free publicity",
...and soon he'd get his wish!
For one day whilst in a hurry,
A dustman missed a lady's bin:
He hadn't gone but a few yards,
When Cliff chased after him.
"What game do you think you're playing?"
Cliff cried right from the 'eart,
"I will be forced to phone your guv'nor,
And demand a 40-tonne cart!"
Oh, the old man rang the dustmen,
Cliff was in no mood for barter,
The dustmen thought "Who is this mad old sod?",
it was of course COUNCILLOR CARTER!
"Come collect this garden waste" said Cliff,
"I'll not wait 'til the smaller van gets back",
he ignored the dustmen's protestations,
and threatened them with the sack!
So off drove this enormous truck with great big rubber boots,
All that waste, just one pick up,
and a bag full o' daisy roots!
The Tory leader sought damage limitation,
So Scully jumped to Cliff's defence,
That despotic Tory leader,
Must believe that we're all dense!
"Cliff didn't know about the size of the truck"
Scully began to wail,
He's long since shredded all the evidence,
About this Kimpton Rubbish Dump tale!
Oh, the old man phoned the dustmen,
And now he looks a prat,
'cos the Sutton Tory carbon footprint,
Is the size of Mount Ararat.
So the next time you spot Councillor Carter,
He looks just like your grandad,
He'll be ask you for your vote next time,
So tell him "Cliff, you must be MAD!"
Despite Councillor Carter not caring about the damage this exercise was to inflict upon the environment and the local taxpayer's pockets it would be interesting to know just how much money was wasted on this single collection.
Nice work, Cliff!
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At the time of writing neither Michael Caine nor Britt Ekland were available for comment.
I am. I'm Aardvark. Not a lot of people know that.
Cllr Paddy Kane says "Sending a 40-tonne truck for one bag of garden waste is not environmentally friendly. It's absolutely frivolous".
Surely it is the Council that do the sending?
The newspaper says "Cliff Carter said he ordered the pick-up."
This is not the same as insisting that a 40-tonne vehicle was sent. Has anyone asked whether the large truck was already out working?
Even though English is not my first language, I can see that you seem to be reading this with a biased eye rather than one that cares about the value for money that Sutton gets.
Well I think the poem is brilliant. Calm down Britt - it's only a blog.
How about this little ditty circa Old Walcountians Rugby Club 1985.
David Pickles,David Pickles
David Pickles is a Horses Ar*e
He is the meanest
He smells like a horses pen*s
David Pickles is a horses ar*e
He looks like a horses ar*e
He smells like a horses ar*e
He is a horses ar*e.
Thank you Reverend Icke.
Those rugby afficienados amongst you will know the tune.
Sing it in your car or dustcart if you are so inclined.
i found that ditty about old man cllr carter phoning the dustman so funny i nearly died laffing LOL i dont leave comments there much but i had to copy and paste it onto scullys blog i just hope he doesnt mind someone posting the truth. the council should have collected the waste the 1st time around so cllr carter didnt have to make a call but cliff should not have demanded a giant truck was used. why couldnt cllr carter have waited for a smaller van. i guess we will never know.
Most would indeed agree that the useless Council should have got it right the first time especially when the resident forked over £35 for the 'privelage' of having their garden waste collected.
However, demanding that a 40 tonne truck should be used instead of waiting for an Escort van to arrive back at the depot was sheer lunacy on the part of Councillor Cliff Carter.
I have also just read the following article in this week's Sutton Guardian:
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Lib-Dem councillor Paddy Kane who chairs the council's sustainable communities committee - which analyses the way ratepayers money is spent - has taken aim at Conservative councillor Cliff Carter.
He said he believed Cllr Carter had acted in an "aggressive and insane manner" after a resident in Sutton North ward did not have their waste collected recently.
Cllr Kane said "Yes, the bag should have been collected by the council, but Cllr Carter was out of line in the way he handled the complaint. I've been told by workers at the Kimpton waste centre that he called them up and abusively insisted they send someone out to collect the bag immediately".
He said what made matters worse was the only vehicle available to collect the bag was a 40-tonne lorry. "He insisted the centre send out the huge truck to collect a 1kg bag of grass cuttings - and that it was a justified council expense", Cllr Kane said. "I don't know why he didn't wait until Monday when a dust vehicle could have picked it up on the way. Instead we're paying for the mileage and petrol for a 40-tonne vehicle. It's grossly over the top - it's like hiring a bus to pick your mum up from Gatwick instead of using a car" But Cllr Carter denied Cllr Kane's accusations.
A SUTTON COUNCIL SPOKESMAN CONFIRMED COUNCILLOR CARTER HAD REQUESTED FOR THE LORRY COLLECT THE BAG.
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Aggressive behaviour? Tsk tsk, Cliff.
Cllr Carter's actions fill me with disgust. So much for "vote blue go green". LOL!
He should have had some more common sense and listened to the supervisor at Kimpton dump.
Still there you go. Those in glass houses should not throw stones!
It sounds as though cllr Carter did not so much as lob stones as throw gargantuan boulders instead.
Couldve been cllr carters time of the month i guess
One would be most interested to see a fiscal breakdown of just how much money was wasted by the use of this excessively proportioned vehicle!
Has cllr Geiringer left to go on his cruise yet, does anyone know?
So it seems that there were three Cllrs present during this exchange, including Cllr. Pickles and Cllr Kane. At least that is what is to be gleaned from the quote on this blog... "ME who has got the facts right". and Cllr Kane's quote in the newspaper. The former quote is relying upon a news story - never a good idea unless one has done one's own research first or unless that person was there at the time and the latter who again was not present and has not exactly got a good track record on such matters.
We shall leave that debate for another day.
Would that then qualify as a mass debate?
Interesting analysis there jo kerr (or Councillor Tim Crowley if you so prefer). Weren't you also in Simple Minds or was that Jim Kerr? Or are you JUST of a simple mind full stop?
I was surprised to see Councillor Tim Crowley's name omitted from his list of those present when Councillor Carter made his monumental balls-up. Yet Tim seems so very sure of Scully Il Duce's version of events despite Tim having inadvertently accepted that he also was not present at the time of the exchange.
"The former quote is relying upon a news story - never a good idea unless one has done one's own research first.."
Tim also seems to discredit a newspaper's account of the fiasco. Councillor Crowley, are you therefore claiming that the Sutton Guardian's story cannot be trusted?
More spin than a hotpoint washing machine! For the record Darren, my name is Jo kerr, not Tim Crowley. Just because you have difficulty remembering who you are does not mean that the rest of us here in Sutton have lost our minds.
So another example of you being unable to get facts right. Tut tut.
"The former quote is relying upon a news story - never a good idea unless one has done one's own research first.."
Spin? It was your quote not mine!
Poor old Councillor Tim is still having difficulty grasping the finer points of the matter, bless 'im!
Timmy, try to stay focused, not easy when you have the DT's but All Bar One should have opened by now. You can scurry down there once you have answered the following simple question (which I am having to repeat as you ducked it the first time round):
Councillor Crowley, are you therefore claiming that the Sutton Guardian's story cannot be trusted?
Looks as though cllr crowley is having a job rememberin what he said. amnesia is catching if cllr carters mistake with the dustcart is anything to go by. I read the story in all the papers and i dunno how the torys can be trying to paint cllr carter as the peoples champion. Carter seems to be the culprit who ordered a juggernaut for just one bag
I must thank the local Tory party for turning a initial mistake by our Liberal Democrat administration into their own private catastrophe.
The desperate Tory attempts to create positive spin from a PR disaster have given our party a terrific laugh.
If you Conservative party stalwarts really wanted to do yourselves a power of good you would consider asking Cllr Geiringer to allow Cllr Carter to take his place on that cruise.
He couldn't cause you anymore bad publicity if he was dispatched to a yacht in the Mediterranean Sea!
"The former quote is relying upon a news story - never a good idea unless one has done one's own research first.."
-Councillor Tim Crowley
"Councillor Crowley, are you therefore claiming that the Sutton Guardian's story cannot be trusted?"
-Scullduggery Watch
If imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery then Scully Il Duce should indeed feel complimented by Aardvark Crowley aping him.
I asked Scully the same question on his own blog last night and thus far he too has failed to give his answer.
When politicians repeatedly duck questions you have to stop and ask yourself the reason why.
Perhaps because it is the weekend and most people are not as sad as you Darren.
which explains why aardvark still feels obliged to post on here several times a day even at weekends.
Does that fool actually think before he types?? Maybe he doesnt have the answer so he blusters instead. We must respect his prerogative to only post irrelevant rugger songs only on weekdays. He really must be our social better!!
Peter: an accurate analysis there of hypocrite Crowley.
However, Aardvark Crowley does in fact know the answer to my question, but both he and Councillor Paul Scully do not want to actually say what they appear to be hinting at in their posts for fear of yet more bad press.
Aardvark might appear subdued at the moment but I am sure he will soon return to spout yet more of his empty rhetoric.
It is his stock-in-trade after all.
ScullDuggery Watch
I read the grass cutting collection story in the paper. I'm disgusted by reports of sloppy service.
How can those useless officers and clueless cllrs be allowed to bump up their pay packets with thousands of pounds of our money?
It is high time some backsides were kicked and p45s issued. That might sound unladylike but thats how frustrating it is to see such rank stupidity. I also hope the cllrs involved lose their jobs next election. Its time we were rid of the driftwood.
you tell them girl LOL. bout time we residents got more value for money. the borough services are poor at the best of times. remember calling the council a few times to remind them to take unwanted compost bin away why cant they get it right first time every time. it does help if the elected people dont waste money by making rash decisions though. dunno if cliff will ever live that one down.
Is anyone aware of the MPG of the dustcart involved in the garden waste collection fiasco or 'Cartergate' as some might Christen it?
Once we ascertain the make and model we could google the type of wagon involved.
I shall ask one of the LD Cllrs what type of vehicles the Borough uses.
That could be a way of deducing just how much fuel was spent on the journey across the Borough.
Multiply the miles per gallon times the reported twelve mile distance of the round trip and we would have our answer.
Then we could add on the staff overheads of the employees operating the cart.
Maybe next weeks newspapers will publish a break-down of just how much cash was frittered away.
It is a sad but i am leaving these shores for pastures new and as such this will be my last post on this blog.
Darren and David it has been a pleasure doing banter with you but now i must go.
To all my loyal followers thankyou for your untiring support.
Darren and David i hope that one day you are both able to let go of the bitterness that has entwined you.
From what i can see you will not be able to make a jot of difference to the Conservatives in the borough.You only have to look at your blog stats to realise that.
Farewell from the land of the Aardvark.
Till we meet again....
Vark
If Mr Vark has difficulty in seeing then one should have gone to Specsavers.
For all his claims of one jot of not one jot of difference being made Aardvark did spend an immense amount of time vehemently denying everything that was posted by the other bloggers!!
It is a pity that the court jester has decided to up sticks and leave.
One has a feeling he will still keep nosing in due to fearing what might be said in his absence.
Aardvark/Councillor Crowley, I accept your capitulation.
I am sorry if the truth on this blog is too much for you to stomach. Actually, that bit isn't strictly true. I don't particularly care if the brutal honestly grates at you one one little bit!
I was disturbed to read that you feel you have followers. I am sure that the shrinks these days can prescribe psychotropic medication to those suffering from paranoid delusions, so there might be hope for your condition yet.
For someone not seeing this blog as a threat to their biast propaganda Scully Il Duce's little gang have carried out a lot of research into those they suspect of being behind this project (stat searches, electoral role searches, drafting in racist has-beens to analyse postings, etc) and duly arrived at a bunch of half-baked theories to boot.
Is that generally the behaviour of people who are so confident of a blog posing no threat to them whatsoever?
Anyway Aard, run along back to Commandant Scully's mediocre blog now and obediently bark a few more words of praise for His Nibbs.
Hey, Darren, you off the medication now? Have the nightmares stopped? Knuckles repaired.
You gross piece of landfill
please don't hit me again darren, i thought you said you loved me...
i'll tell them at work i walked into a door again
Oh dear it would appear that certain cowardly persons within Scully's little contingent are slandering one of their suspects once again! Most amusing.
Can you imagine the furore that would ensue if someone accused Councillor Scully or one of his minions of wife beating? Legal writs would be fired of at an alarming rate and solicitors would be earning double-bubble as multiple writs were filed!
Do you ever feel like certain people do not like the things that are being talked about on this blog and will go to any lengths to gag it's editor?
"How to silence dissidents and influence people" by Councillors Paul Scully and Tim Crowley.
If their current behaviour is anything to go by then it seems entirely plausible that if Scully's Tory hierarchy take control of the council in 2010 we shall see Kim Jong-il being invited as a guest of honour at the Civic Centre. Maybe Scully would even eventually twin Sutton with Pyongyang!
Hey all, as it is Wimbledon fortnight, anyone fancy a knock-about?
Just singles though, I don't do doubles.
A Tory talking balls. Why am I not surpised.
*****WIFE BEATING TRIVIA*****
Andrew Pelling is a British Conservative politician. He is member of Parliament for Croydon Central.
On September 18, 2007 Pelling was arrested at his home after the Metropolitan Police received a complaint from his pregnant wife Lucy. He was released on bail later that night after being questioned.A Metropolitan Police statement released the following day said: "A man in his 40s was arrested on September 18 at an address in south London in connection with allegations of assault. He was taken to a south London police station and was bailed to return on 1 October. The alleged victim is a female in her 20s." However the police later announced that no charges were to be made against Mr Pelling. Lucy made statements to the Press that resulted in the Conservative Whip in the Commons being withdrawn from Mr Pelling.
Pelling has subsequently been suspended from the Conservative party, following his arrest on allegations of assaulting his wife, Lucy.
*****INTERESTING FACT******
Q.WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE PERSON GIVEN RESPONSIBILITY OF MANAGING ANDREW PELLING MP'S PARLIAMENTARY OFFICE?
A.CONSERVATIVE CLLR PAUL SCULLY
Heard bout this. That made him the right hook member for croydon central. maybe philipa stroud can weave her campaign for social justice magic on pelling cos it sounds like he needs it more than anyone. None of this made conservative partys promotion of family values believable. sounded like hogwash and highlights fact that torys say one thing do another
i read about this mp hitting his wife. OMG no way would i let any man treat me like that soon as he raised his hand once id be out the door & he would be in cuffs. so glad me and my friend tore up our tory memberships months ago. its sick how suttons torys get people to hint stuff on this blog about ex members but wont paste evidence of there claims. looks like they are mud slinging to damage someone they dont like anymore. all along scully has a close friend who hits pregnant women and he even runs the mans westminster office. they are sick hypocrits if you ask me.
What news of cartergate scullduggery watch? I was just wondering whether the local papers will talk more about it this week. Sounded as though it was unfinished business.
Willard: I have asked two people to make discreet inquiries on my behalf. I am sure they will find something of interest in due course. I do not for one minute suppose that this will be the end of the saga.
There was rather a lot of money needlessly wasted and pollutants emitted for this subject to be dead and buried.
Is this not 6 of one and half a dozen of the other? Sure Cllr Carter was apparently told it would be a lorry, but probably in his haste to help a resident he agreed. On the other hand the council should have smaller vehicles available for pickups like this. What else does Kimpton do?
I have it on excellent authority that Cllr Carter knew full well the size of the vehicle he was ordering.
The council employee informed him of what was available at the time of Cllr's Carter's call.
Where has Pretentious Park run off to? We are in dire need of a master statistician who can do a little number crunching for The Watchman's blog.
If the former Councillor for Cheam ward is reading this could he please work out just how much money his comrade Cliff Carter wasted by demanding that 40 tonne truck!
looks like he's ignoring you scullduggery watch lol
I think this is absolutely beyond the pale. Cllr Carter was doing his best for a resident/constituent and all he gets is slated for it. If Cllr Hall had got this right in the first place, then this thread would not exist.
Weren't you saying it was Councillor Kane's fault before?
So you have already blamed Paddy Kane, now you are blaming Colin Hall. Do you plan on blaming anyone else in your vain bid to get Councillor Carter off the hook?
what names do you think cllr carter called the man at the council office when he phoned up to complain about the bag? i heard he was very abusive!
Everybody knows that Cllr Carter is doing sterling work in Sutton North, and Scullduggery Watch should not treat him like this.
What else is a councillor supposed to do? Ignore his constituents?
ummmm ignore your constituents versus use your common sense hmmmm i'm sure if cllr carter had been requested to supply a limousine to take a resident to the civic office he'd have thought that was also value for money
i admit that theres nothing like having your own 40 ton truck to take your grass away is there LOL so not to send such a big cart is ignoring your constituents LOL what utter tosh. cllr carter seems like he wants an expense account just for his own gaffs paid for by taxpayers like me. what next a cruise ship for cllr geiringer
Silly old Watchman.
There was me thinking you got more frugal as you got older! In Councillor Carter's case you appear to get more extravagant, especially if the rest of the London Borough of Sutton's taxpayers are picking up the tab.
Like the tax payer picks up the costs of prison, court, social services etc... hmm. Bet a stretch costs more than a 40 tonne truck
Excellent point.
Someone should ask Andrew Pelling for his input.
He would know all about the Metrpolitan Police, the Crown Prosecution Service and social services.
If anyone reading this is close to the conservative MP, Cllr Scully for instance, then would they please ask the Croydon MP for his thoughts.
Strange how the press has been full of stories of members of parliament claiming fortunes in expenses.
Then Pelling ends up costing the taxpayer even more through his extra curricular activities.
I take offense at the above comment.
This kind of vindictive commentary does not improve my chances of remaining in the conservative party.
In fact it makes us tories out to be wife beating scum.
This is simply not the case and i'm deeply offended by your insinuations.
(Besides if those bastard police officers had not have shown up i would have had the bitch in the next round)
hee hee
did scully condone pelling's punching of lucy or did he condemn it? pelling and scully were good friends so his take on it would've been interesting
It was amusing to see that anonyMOUSE inadvertently confirmed the ordering of a 40 tonne rubbish cart by Councillor Carter.
Surely Anon's impassioned plea of Carter's goof being of limited fiscal harm to our wallets only serves to confirm that such an event did take place.
Me thinks he doth protest too much.
The following is an excerpt from a post I left on Scully's Blog on the 27th June 2008. Scully did not post on that thread again for three days and when he did he actively avoided answering the question. We can therefore presume that Scully thought that the Sutton Guardian were very unprofessional in their reporting of the 'Cartergate' story:
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"A SUTTON COUNCIL SPOKESMAN CONFIRMED COUNCILLOR CARTER HAD REQUESTED FOR THE LORRY COLLECT THE BAG."
I am sure you will agree that the Guardian's quote does appear to confirm that Councillor Carter DID specifically request for that particular vehicle to make a solitary collection.
Now which source are you claiming that the Sutton Guardian were quoting from when they wrote that?
Are you insinuating that any publication which does not subscribe to your own version of events is in fact lying?
Or are you saying that a local newspaper not agreeing with Paul Scully's own brand of propaganda must be guilty of not having investigated the garden waste collection story fully?
27 June 2008 17:28:00 GMT
Completely off topic. I suggest that readers have a look at Cllr Scully's official blog. There he is freely ranting on about MP's "expenses".
This from a man who is ruthlessly pushing himself forward hoping to gain a selection for the next general election for the "tories".
So I suppose we must believe that he will not be claiming any expenses at all if he is fortunate enough to win? Mind you after another Boris gaffe this evening, the "tories" chances of gaining power are slipping away slowly.
i'm not sure how scully can bleat about politician's expenses when him and his dep.leader brokered a big increase in the deputy's salary. that position never received extra bunce before plus it was against the tory election pledge to increase salaries. the term hypocrite comes to mind
I must issue here a full apology to Cllr Scully who assures me that this time round he is not pushing for a seat at the next general election.
Was that because of the thing with Eleanor Pinfold?
lol @ cllr pickles kissing up to the torys
was that a voluntary apology or were you threatened with a standards committee microscope up your arse?
cllr scully say jump cllr pickles say how high hahahahahahahaha
Yes very funny whoever you are. Look at Scully's official blog and see.
At least Cllr Pickles had the decency to apologise because he got it wrong. He has gone up a long way in my estimation.
True enough.
Whilst I have a differing position on the EU to Cllr Pickles I admit he does work hard for his constituents and at least has the decency to admit when he makes a mistake.
This is in stark contrast to the conservative cllr Paul Scully.
Despite his frequent dubious actions you would have more chance of seeing blood drawn from a stone than seeing Paul Scully issue an apology.
Tell us why scully couldnt get a candidacy for the torys for the next general election cllr pickles?
probably cause hes not quite the consummate politician after all i shouldnt wonder
Well - I've no idea. I'm only going by what he told me on his thread. I heard on the rumour mill that Cllr Scully was desperate to be on the list of candidates. Obviously that was wrong, and I have amended my comments.
Heard he got turned down first time he went for selection. maybe scully knows he wont cut it at a higher level. Theres a comfort zone in coining it in locally and working behind the scenes. Bet he still is desperate to become an mp but doesnt wanna lose the role he betrayed pinfold for. he knows he probably wont get elected. Scully wouldnt fancy upping sticks and quiting his council post. He fancies himself as being a local big fish to much
if he was so good they would have chose him instead of that philipa LOL
queen of cheam - to win in a selection process, you have to stand in the selection process. Or is that too easy for your small brain to comprehend?
Which does beg the question why Paul Scully did not stand for selection in an area close to where he served as a cllr.
Perhaps the local tory members would not have voted for him.
Maybe Scully intends on waiting until Mrs Stroud loses the next election before making his move to stand as a potential parliamentary candidate for Sutton & Cheam.
We have highlighted in our LD literature that Philippa Stroud does have a frequent tendency to leave her constituency once she loses an election.
Mrs Stroud previously lost to Clare Short in Ladywood Birmingham.
If I remember she was once a candidate in Hammersmith.
Philippa Stroud has very little commitment to any constituency.
This is in stark contrast to our loyal Lib Dem mp Paul Burstow who has lived in Sutton for many years.
There were rumours in circulation that Mrs Stroud still lives full time in Fulham and only rents her Sutton home for the purpose of manipulating the voters into thinking she has local connections.
Philippa Stroud's only commitment seems to be towards getting herself into parliament.
I would fully expect cllr Scully to continue raising his profile through cheap publicity stunts and then make an attempt at becoming the conservative ppc once Phillipa Stroud has lost to Paul Burstow in a couple of years time.
OK then clever clogs nazareth why didnt he try to get selected?
OH NEVER MIND ABOUT SCULLY BEING TOO CRAP FOR PARLIAMENT WHICH ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO ASK HOW MY CRUISE IS GOING?
How's about this for a laugh! Cameron tries to "clean up" the MEP's expenses rules, and meets the most opposition by his own Tory MEP's!
You couldn't make it up.
DID THOSE TORIES EVER RETRACT THEIR SLANDER OF NIGEL FARRAGE? I RECALL THEY SLAGGED HIM OFF AFTER THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HE FIDDLED EXPENSES. ALL CLAIMS WERE FOUND TO BE LIES WHICH NO DOUBT WERE FABRICATED BY THE CONS PARTY IN A BID TO BLACKEN HIS GOOD NAME.
I am so glad to see everyone is having fun!
Nobody answered my question anyway. My sources within the Sutton & Carshalton Conservatives have also only managed to come up with a number of possible theories as to why events have transpired the way they have done.
Why did Scully Il Duce choose not to go for selection as PPC? Or was the decision already made for him?
ask that nazareth he seems to know it all LOL
Right that is it im not having this any more!! I am first class MP material so you bastards will show some respect!! I'll see ScullDuggery Watch in the tower for this mark my words!! This blogspot is finished!! Don't any of bastards realise who i am??!!
On a much lighter note - I did know some years back that Cllr Clifford Carter - who has a disabled badge but can walk 5 miles for a photo opportunity - was after selling his back garden for financial and opportunistic gain.
Can anyone enlighten me on whether the said Cllr has actually sold his land, bearing in mind he is in full support of Cllr Scully who apparently "opposes the sale of back garden land", being part of Tory principal?
LOCAL MP PAUL BURSTOW IN HOT WATER OVER MISUSE OF PARLIAMENTARY MONEY
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7502211.stm
Not the first time Burstow has been caught using taxpayer's money to fund his electioneering. He was found to be misusing his postage subsidies a few years back if I recall.
I cannot condone this.
This is the second time that Paul has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
That's because like ALL MP's of what ever party, they are only in it for the money. Filth the lot of them.
I find it a bit rich that scully dares to mount a campaign of mock outrage at the 'snouts in the trough' culture of our mps when it was his conservative deputy who got a five or six thousand pound windfall just for being a shadow leader of the opposition. Such outpourings in the face of greed on his own side shows his righteousness has a hollow ring.
Whilst I share some of the apathy expressed on here let us please keep it relatively free from extremes of profanity!
I do believe that Peter Worthington has just about summed up my own personal views on this matter with his statement which echoed my thoughts exactly.
Scully is looking like a hypocrite once again. So much for him leading by example, but then again did we really expect anything less from one so treacherous?
To be quite honest Mr Sculldugger Watch, using profanity in this case is probably quite warranted, and I object to you removing my comments.
MP's of ALL parties are guilty of treachery and greed at some stage, and it ill-befits the Tories both nationall and locally to preach "cleanliness" and being "whiter than white" and then to condone pay increases which went against the original manifesto drawn up here a couple of years ago.
Scully will be no different, nor will his colleagues. If they ever get their hands on the tiller of power here they will all have their snouts in the trough just like they do in parliament.
Whither the greedy Wintertons? As I said before but in a slightly different way "fcuk" the lot of them. Whoever "Sir Johnathan Noakes" is has revealed yet another mystery. Why has Cllr Carter got his garden up for sale? This smacks of sheer hypocrisy and greed to me as well.
Well, that told me didn't it!
I would also be interested to learn more about these rumours of Councillor Carter's garden being up for sale.
This would of course be against a key Scully pledge that the Conservatives will oppose back yard developments which blight their neighbour's views.
Does anyone have anymore information about Councillor Cliff Carter looking to sell his land to developers?
p.s. Do you mean French Connection UK to the lot of them, Mr Worthington?
rumour has it he got offered 10 grand by a developer but it weren't enough so he held out for more
How much would cllr carter have sold his garden for do you think? Might he have sold his land already? News of a tory cllr trying to sell his land proves the conservative pledge to stem overdevelopment in sutton is pure nonsense. I ain't surprised he was the one who ordered that bastard great truck either.
A friend of mine lives quite near him. I believe he resides near Tesco somewhere off the by-pass.
I'll ask him to do some investigate work.
Carter is having a laugh.
Scully is also losing the plot.
How the hell can the tory party promise to clamp down on people flogging their gardens off to building companies when one of their own has made plans to cash in on this?
This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
oh to be a politician! the message appears to be do as we say not as we do. is it any wonder politics has a rep as being a dirty business? snouts in the trough one and all
You all mad
You wish to see the liberals get in again?
And have Pickles infecting the council with his vanity and cancer of ukip?
Tell you what, lets just install Pickles as the NightMayor of Sutton shall we
Cue the yarn about him ensuring bins get emptied
Lib Dem's in meltdown as fresh garden waste storm emerges:
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/suttonnews/display.var.2399026.0.council_charges_35_to_collect_waste_then_dumps_it_in_next_town.php
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/suttonnews/display.var.2399026.0.council_charges_35_to_collect_waste_then_dumps_it_in_next_town.php
Councillor Colin Hall always was a waste of space.
How very apt then that Sutton's Lib Dem Councillors should appoint him as their waste management Czar.
He has presided over various farces involving industrial clean-ups and bringing rogue site owners to book.
It does look as though Colin Hall's position has become untenable. Not even another photocall in the local press will be enough to save him this time.
did the fat man enjoy his cruise? LOL
Do you mean cllr geiringer?
Queen of cheam - that's a really cruel thing to say - just as well we don't all go exposing your weaknesses and personal issues in public - readers would get a very nasty shock. On the other hand that might not be such a bad idea
fire away nazareth! something tells me im a stronger woman than you are a man hun!
(Yawn!) Queen, as we know Nazareth is another coward who is full of piss and wind. He clearly has plenty to hide just as his master does.
Bitch slap you scullduggery i have no masters and as for you queen of cheam, woman's intuition letting you down again - i ain't no man just as you ain't no queen
Bitch slapping?
Either Naz is a fan of The Prodigy or Scully has decided to accept woman beaters into his inner circle, in addition to his sometime having worked for a failed politician who felt there was nothing wrong with giving his wife a right-hander.
At least Nazareth was prepared to admit that he is not a gentleman anyway.
I heard Pelling took lots of time off due to unspecified health reasons. I guess fractured metacarpals has considerably reduced his ability to type letters to his constituents.
When you lot gonna own up and tell scully that theres several people posting under the scullduggery watch identity?
what you think peter Worthington, willard, Queen of Cheam and Scullduggery watch are the same person?
Seems like a fair guess to me.
Dunno about that. I meant scullduggery watch is a few different people with an axe to grind typing under that name. What bout you bumble are you a Lib, Tory, Lab or a ukip?
Fair guess then that bumble is a disgruntled tory who hates this blog hee hee. More power to them who post as scullduggery watch
wibble
wobble, scully is shit
loving the posts!! david park was a thinskinned twerp werent he. i suppose his tantrum-o-meter is off the scale by now!!
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